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Just thought of adding my bit to the public debate on this ‘hot’ topic...
By the way, I have nothing to say to the secularists and those against the Shariah out there...
No body with even a little bit of knowledge on Islamic Shariah will deny that the whole purpose of the Shariah is to bring justice and harmony to the people. Islam preaches justice and at the same time, compassion, and Allah Almighty is the Most Just and Most Compassionate. Thus the ‘penalties’ (which, by the way, only represents a tiny fraction of the whole Shariah) are prescribed to attain this.
I do not think President Nasheed spoke against this basic truth of Islamic Shariah. As far as I understood, he was not sure that the Maldivian Judiciary is in a state to implement the Shariah penalties as they should be implemented.
Having said that, the President, being the highest authority on Islam in the Maldives as per the Constitution, could have (or rather, should have) addressed this matter in a more responsible and sensible way. He could have expressed the importance of bringing the Judiciary up to the standard required by the Islamic Shariah, as it is of utmost importance to do so in an Islamic state.
The MPs and the Judicial Service Commission have got a gigantic task on their shoulders to make sure they truly live up to the oaths they took in the name of Allah Almighty to uphold Islam...
Tuesday, 20 October 2009
On “death penalty and chopping of hands”...
Posted by muiz at 07:33
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So Muizzu, in effect what you are saying is that the President was wrong in what he said.... why do people want to take us back into medieval/Jaahiliyya times in the name of religion.
Its barbaric to cut off people's hands...
Dear "Anonymous": Did I say that the President was wrong in what he said? I think I made it very clear what I wanted to say. I feel that he could have been more responsible in making comments like that. And given the principles underlying the whole basis of the Shariah he could have been more sensible in his remarks.
Regarding your second point of "barbaric" penalties etc, may I just advise you not to simply follow what others who hate islam say. If you want to make a judgment on anything (in this case Islamic Shariah) you should first do a thorough and objective study of it without prejudice. Once you do that, please come back and we can talk about it!
I felt that the scholars were impulsive on reacting to what Nasheed said. And yes I agree that if Anni had phrased it differently, like u said, it wouldn't have caused such roar. We all seem to be on our toes. We need to evaluate information before reacting to it.
Do you realy think we should have a debate about this...its very clear in the Shariah and these people are as so called believers have doubts in what it is revealed. No need to have discussion and open up the Quran and they will find the answer!
Its always the minority who will control the majority.. so the secularists are a minority but they are doing all the screaming... which got them in to the the government, majlis, cabinet as well as blogosphere. they are everywhere and they are vocal. what we (the majority) needs is to do some hard thinking. this enemy can be confronted with thinking and reasoning. lecturing them does no good! they have already left the fold of the Islam so Quruan is not a book they are likely to open and seek guidance from.
salaams.
I agree. Even though Mr Nasheed may be the highest authority on Islam in the country in theory, I believe that he doesn't have the basic Islamic knowledge to make statements about Islamic Shariah or its relevance to the country. What he should do is consult the scholars in the country regarding the issue before he makes such claims.
As far as I'm aware of there's not a single Muslim country that has actually implemented Shariah fully as it should be (yes, not even Saudi Arabia).
Considering the direction in which our MPs are taking our penal code, we'd be closer to that of EU legal system than the Shariah. This is worrying and we need to tackle this.
We've let secularists gain the upper hand for far too long. We need to educate the common Maldivian about Islam. I think there are pockets of good Muslims across the country. What we need is a common platform where we can discuss and form a unified voice against secularists etc. in the country.
Can Sahria be reformed? As far as I know Sharia is not only the interpretation of Quran and Hadith but also Fiqh.
Why always Islamic Scholars are so keen to kill people? It is mostly Islamic Scholars worldwide encouraging killing humane in the name of religion. In the case of Maldives it is mostly Salaf and Adhalath are always pushing forward death penalties.
Why a Scholar cant cannot bare to answer critical questions on Islam? I believe it is the duty of the scholars to answer religious question to those who don’t know in our community.
Why always Islamic Scholars in our society shouts west. Muslims are living in secular non Islamic Western countries much happier and respectful as humane then some of Islamic countries. Germany is Christian country but over 2 million Muslims live there freely and very harmony. The government of Germany or the society does not force those Muslim communities to choose their religion. So why Christians has not the same right to live peacefully in Islamic countries? When you ask critical question from a Scholar you are immediately labelled as unbeliever or an agent of west. Why this is so in all Islamic societies?
Let me answer those questions Anonymous. I think the reason people ask such questions is because they do not fully understand Islam and its Shariah.
There are certain things in the Shariah that can change from time and place. But the laws that have been implemented by the prophet SAW cannot be changed or reformed. The only way an implemented law could be changed is if God send us another law the abrogates the previous one.
What the Christians and other religions are doing to reform their religion is complete and utter nonsense. As they are saying that they can reform and change God's laws. How do they know that God is now OK with having men having same sex relations with other men? This doesn't make sense. In effect what they are saying is that God doesn't exist.
If you look at Islamic history, Muslims are not keen on killing people. In fact the actual number of deaths for apostasy in the earlier Islamic history is very limited. This even applies to crimes such as adultery.
However death penalty and capital punishment is a right of the society. It is not done in the name of Islam or to make Islam more powerful. It is only done to protect the rest of the law-abiding majority of the society. It is a no brainer of course to imagine a much safer, peaceful environment for the people without all the pedophiles, rapists and murderers walking freely amongst us.
I don't know what critical questions you are talking about. Would you like to state some of these questions?
It is true Muslims are living happier in secular Western countries than they are in certain Islamic countries. There are reasons for that. Most of the Islamic countries (including the Maldives) have corrupt leaders. Leaders who are only interested in their personal gain, with little regard to Islam or that of their people. This however is not because of Islam. Having said that, living in a secular country myself, I wouldn't regard this as a safe haven for any Muslim. But yes, it's certainly better than the alternative. What we need is good Islamic leaders, who abide by the Shariah. Who don't use Islam and the people for their own personal fame and fortune.
Christians have the same right to live in Islamic countries. This was how it was during the time of the prophet and during the larger part of Muslim rule. This is evident from the books of history. Even to this day there are countries in the Islamic world where Christians and Jews are treated just as any other citizen. So, you've been grossly misinformed if you ask the question why is it the case in all Islamic societies.
If the Islamic scholars are so keen in killing, there would be a case from Shariah implementing countries like Saudi Arabia, every day on the media. Its the Western media which propagates anti-Islamic thought which influence the people, especially those who are not aware of the concept of Islamic Shariah.
It could be considered barbaric, if you just think of traffic fines in the UK,for instant, without thinking about the reason behind that. So think about the reason behind Death penalty and Chopping Off of hands, before screaming about things you have little knowledge of.
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